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still kind of a stealthy love ninja ([personal profile] zvi) wrote in [community profile] podficmeta2011-05-10 07:58 pm

Fighting For Our Right To Party

So, I am not actually directing you to go talk to people in an anon meme, but there's a long discussion about posting a story podfic first, text delayed, in the Inception anon meme on LJ.

It raises a few interesting questions which you might care to discuss.

Some questions:

1) How do you convince people to give podfic a try, if they don't intuitively grasp why it might be cool?
2) If a story only ever gets posted as podfic, are you keeping something from people who prefer text?
3) What are the arguments for and against simultaneous release of podfic and text versus podfic first release?
4) How do you present the idea to people of a staggered release without annoying them? How do you let the people who didn't want to listen to the audio that the text is finally available?
5) If a story is released podfic first, is that first podfic of it the canonical version of the text?
6) How do you write a story to be read?
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[identity profile] frogspace.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming that there's a text version of the audio.

Yes, I do. Based on the question, the context of the discussion, and every podfic I've ever listened to. If there is no text version, the question doesn't make sense and we are talking about something altogether different. If there is any fanfic audio performance out there that is spontaneous storytelling without any text basis, I would be thrilled to find it. So far no luck.

I still don't think it's wrong or anything for it to remain unreleased.

I didn't say it's wrong.

I actually thought about zines too when reading the discussion, however I think there are some key differences between the two.

And yet you bring exactly the same arguments and thus prove my point that introducing limiting factors to the fic introduces the same arguments to the discussion. *g*

Sorry frogspace, this isn't really meant to be a rant at you

No problem. I didn't say any of those things you are ranting against, so... *shrugs*
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[personal profile] paraka 2011-05-13 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I do. Based on the question, the context of the discussion, and every podfic I've ever listened to. If there is no text version, the question doesn't make sense and we are talking about something altogether different.

Actually, the question reads: 2) If a story only ever gets posted as podfic, are you keeping something from people who prefer text?
No where in there does it say that there's a text version in existence, it simply says "story" which can just as easily imply a verbal story as a textual one. So this question totally makes sense if we're talking about stories without a text version.

And yes, historically most podfic/audiofic has been based on a story with a pre-existing text, however as [personal profile] busaikko pointed out (and as I suggested in my previous comment) that's not always the case. It may not be a common occurrence (at the moment) but making sweeping statements as you, and others in this discussion, have done ignores those exceptions. And unfortunately those kinds of sweeping statements have a habit of becoming a "fandom rule" and people feel they can't break them later on so I think it's important not to forget these uncommon occurrences.

And yet you bring exactly the same arguments
OK, and this is where I admit that I have never actually run across any zine wank (I was thinking about zines and hold back the online release of fic when I said I thought about zines) so can't actually speak to the wank side of the zine debate.